starting "the view" or doing one on ones with presidents. she was a symbol of what journalism ought to be. at least that's how it was for me. >> you talk about her interviews with presidents. she interviewed every u.s. president and first lady. you're right, you didn't have a choice. all roads to the white house led through barbara walters. >> exactly. you needed to prove that. you needed to win her over. >> that's right. do it while somehow avoiding crying. i remember how many people would sit down for a barbara walters interview and be like i vow to myself i wasn't going to cry but here i am weeping. somehow she just turned on the water works for people.