journalist, but honestly, you feel like it seems like the most natural things in the world and that's why when you realize how important representation is and seeing somebody do the thing that you can then imagine yourself to become, i think she did that because of an entire generation of women journalists. >> her male colleagues weren't always welcoming and she did it anyway. we had an easier time thanks to her. thank you for the remembrances and lisa, i want to go back to you because you worked with her at "the view" because you talked about what a role model and mentor she was. what were those years with her like? >> they were incredible, and hearing that byte from her talking about her legacy and how she hopes she had paved the way for younger journalists.