people to dagestan, they've been making raids, they've been -- >> but bob -- >> go ahead. >> in your opinion, though, it doesn't necessarily mean that somebody kind of directed them to do this particular bombing. it could be, in your opinion, just somebody who gave the older brother instruction in how to make the devices, and then they sort of came up with their own plan. i mean, is that your thinking? >> yeah, i think that's the most logical hypothesis. go back to the united states, kill as many people as you can. the two brothers think boston marathon, times square, doesn't really matter. you know what they don't want is to be connected by cell phone to foreign cell groups, they don't want money transfers and they don't want orders coming from overseas, because it's all interce intercepted, so they just say go kill as many people as you can. and this is why this discussion about hitting new york or other targets in boston seem very fluid to us. it doesn't sound very military. but in that world of trying to