him and get the one up on him or something. and i think trayvon got mad and attacked him. >> do you feel like you know for sure what happened inned altercation? and did the other jurors feel for sure that they knew what happened? >> nobody knew exactly what happened. i mean, started at one point and ended on another point. witnesses said they heard left to right movement. other witnesses said they heard right to left movement? but the credible witnesses said they heard left to right movement. so whatever happened, i think the punch came, and then they ended up in front of the -- in back of the house. i don't think anybody knows. >> when the defense in their closing argument played that animation of what they believe happened, did you find that credible? >> i found it credible. i did. >> what did you think of the testimony of trayvon martin's mother and father. did you find them credible?