that juror and the other jurors were privileged to make a subjective determination of credibility and they did that and we're hearing that for the first time, which is what a lot of us on the defense bar predicted. it doesn't have to do with race. it has to do with relatability. >> it sounds a little code. >> yeah. >> listen, we can't -- either it's code or it's not. we can't read into everything -- >> you said she's not relatable because she didn't read cursive. >> absolutely. i said people can conclude that somebody who doesn't read cursive is somebody they may not identify with. and then you injected race into it. because, after all, because you're making the statement then that there's a certain race that can't read cursive. i never said that.