program. she declined. while a significant number of victims rescued were found on backpage.com, they were found through the fbi combing these sites, not by backpage.com referring victims to the fbi. do you buy that argument? >> i -- it's all about money. and it's not just the fbi, it's many other police agencies, state and federal, local and some international police agencies that point the finger to backpage.com to help these exploiters of children to function. it's all about the money. and i really think that the public has to say, we all want freedom of press and first amendment. no one wants to sanction or sensor the internet, but i think these sites have to be held accountable, because it's all about the money. they're not cooperating, they're not there as a nonprofit helping these law enforcement agencies, they're there because they facilitate these guys.