newsrooms and see whatever classified information is there. all of the information involves pentagon papers. that's what investigative journalism is. if you want to start criminalizing that, it means you're asking as a citizen to be kept ignorant and allow people in power to conceal what they're doing behind a wall of secrecy. and to have no accountability or transparency. journalism is not a crime and it's not terrorism. >> i would also imagine any information david might have had was likely duplicated. backed up someplace else. so it's not like that would make it disappear by confiscating it, so i guess this was to intimidate you and send a message to others. >> what they did is ludicrous. first of all, of course, we have multiple dids of every single thing that they're working on. nobody would ever travel with only one copy of anything, even if you just lose it or it's stolen, that would be inane. of course we have multiple copies around the world in different places.