that's right, anderson. and authorities told us in this news conference moments ago that seven families have been notified and these are the seven families they have reached out the and told their family members had been killed. the names are 59-year-old michael arnold, 53-year-old sylvia frasier, 62-year-old kathy gaarde, 73-year-old john roger johnson, 50-year-old frank kohler, 46-year-old kenneth bernard proctor, 61-year-old vishnu pandit. all of the individuals who were killed were described as civilians or contractors. no military personnel were shot or killed here at the washington navy yard, anderson. the other thing that i think is interesting is the ages of them. all of the ages range from 46 upward among the names we have been given so far.