and i just shook my head, and he kept going. >> how did he seem to you? i mean, what did he look like? was his expression? >> he looked -- he didn't have -- you know, it was kind of hard to see the expression. i was more focused on his weapon. it was a rifle, like a -- liked like an assault rifle. i'm in the hospital sure what kind it would have been. he was dressed normally. he had short hair, light complexion, you know, just maybe blue jeans or gray jacket or something like that -- >> and he wasn't running. he was just walking? >> just walking. it was just walking slowly, you know, taking his time. >> do you know how long after he spoke to you that he was shot? >> i don't know. i can't say. i didn't --