money. >> what i think you're describing to me is wink and a nod extortion. >> it's pay to play. and i agree with the word "extortion." as harsh a word as that is, it's an atrocity that nobody seems to care about because it just goes on and goes on and goes on. >> reporter: we wanted to ask utah democratic congressman jim mathison about fundraising at his breakfast, and specifically why he was raising money for his political action committee at the same time he was deciding to leave congress. he wasn't interested. we also wanted to ask michigan republican klman dave kemp why he needed so much money. he raised nearly $4.5 billion in his last campaign. his opponent raised a paltry $37,000. kemp has blown out his closest challengers for years. so what's all this money for? no comment. and then there's florida governor rick scott. remember that first fundraiser