room, who do they identify with? if you have older white guys on that jury they're not going to identify with davis but with fear and this guy. that's what exists in america. so all of this beyond race or we're here or there or we're going to educate it's nonsense. >> let's leave it on that kernel of agreement. thank you so much for being with us. really appreciate it. great discussion tonight. coming up, a kentucky pastor who started a show about snake handling in church dies from a snakebite after refusing to be treated. we'll take you inside a similar service to see why snakes are a part of the service despite the obvious dangers. that's next. huh...fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. mmmhmmm...everybody knows that. well, did you know that old macdonald was a really bad speller?