obviously you have to go find out. i think that richard was reading the tea leaves pretty well, it may have been somebody junior or somebody left their station and the malaysian prime minister was just never going to say that. so i think that richard did a masterful job trying to pin him down. >> and richard, that means if you accept the explanation given, that means there was a mistake early on. and presumably the malaysian officials have known about this for sometime and you trying to keep it quiet? >> yeah, it is confusing to me, except for the fact the malaysian radar, which if it is an older radar which i suspect it is, just for defense purposes. it doesn't have secondary pings. their goal at this point would have to be it is a threat. and that is exactly why we found ourselves in the situation like we did with 9/11.