neck and chest compression. if you look at the video, the rough treatment mr. garner was being subjected to not just by one but several officers, it defies belief. on the smallest amount of assault up to second-degree murder. it defies belief that there was no indictment here on one of those charges. >> the reason police said they were talking to mr. garner in the first place is selling loose cigarettes. is that even to your knowledge an arrestable offense? is that something normally just ticketed or would somebody normally be arrested for that? >> well, you know, i think it's probably a summonsable offense. i think you can get a summons. but they had a suspicion he was