then suddenly you have ideas in your head and you can talk about it was it apparent right away that everybody is on the same page here this in terms of what they now believe, or was it that sometimes -- >> oh, there were people -- and everybody was -- >> we passed the kleenex box instead of the stick, and all 12 jurors got to talk and state their peace without interruption and then we got to question an discuss, and it took a while, and we had to weigh the evidence and make sure that we believed what we were doing was right. >> and then we took a vote. >> that was it. >> that was it. >> heidi and stacie, thank you