just because there is relative calm, one should not imagine that everything is normal. >> no. it's almost akin to putting a band-aid on it as a child. but you keep peeking at it to see if coagulation has handled and healed. we're still open to virus because of all that's happened. that's why everyone was on edge this afternoon when we heard about a gunfire going off. we didn't know whether this was going to tip us back over. so we've got a long way to go from friday. but look at how far we've come since last monday. last monday 5,000 national guard had swarmed in, barricades up, curfew up. but tonight there are no barricades, the national guard is all but gone, leaving in the next 48 hours. so we're in the healing process, but we're still in the recovery role. >> reverend, i appreciate you being with us. we're going to have a town hall meeting on policing in america. you're going to stick around for that in our next hour. thanks for being with us, i appreciate it. our special report, police under fire, begins in about ten