to boycott the fox debate if he was taking part of it. if he is treated fairly, no he won't run third party. test front-runner to the republican nomination. if the establishment doesn't want to give him the equal access. he has the leverage -- and that's the word he used to run third party. that's a $100 million he is d.a. ka paid. i have got gary johnson on the ballot in 48 states three years ago. we would have been on in all the states but we got bad judicial decisions in two states. trump has the capacity to do that if he wants. to that's not his preference. >> trump used that word, leverage during the debate and got criticism for it. what do you think that means to donald trump? what does he want to use the leverage for. >> to make sure he has a fair shot at the nomination. this is not about trump and trump's ego. this is about making sure he isn't treated unfairly. >> let me ask you about ego. because, can a guy who fights