if we lose the election, let's at least keep the senate and house and let's focus on 2020. that's already -- >> can the gop afford to do that? >> the secret here is trump isn't actually winning what people usually think of as the republican base. he's winning some ideological conservatives. but a big chunk of his vote is self-described moderate and liberal republicans, which doesn't mean that they are liberal necessarily in the way that, you know, maybe people that read "the new york times" understand the term. but nay are often working-class and disaffected white men in the midwest and northeast, voters some of whom stayed home in 2012 rather than vote for mitt romney and not a consistent web.