"new york times" they recorded it at a fundraiser yesterday. he was asked about, he was referring to voters perceptions of donald trump and ben carson. let's listen. >> who am i comfortable having their finger on the button? now that's a question of strength but it's also a question of judgment. and i think that is a question that is a challenging question for both of them. so my approach much to the frustration of the media has been to bear hug both of them and smother them with love because i think, look, people run as who they are. i believe that gravity will bring both of the campaigns down and i think the lion share of their supporters come to us. >> for republicans, though, who don't like donald trump, i mean, it's not as if ted cruz is an establishment republican candidate. he's not like by a lot of the establishment. >> no, he's not liked by the establishment but he is kind of an establishment candidate. he's got his resume reads like