such transcripts are typically stored. instead, the transcript was loaded into a separate electronic system. and this was not the first time under this administration that a presidential transcript was placed into this codeword-level system solely for the purpose of protecting politically sensitive rather than national security sensitive information." the president says it was a perfect call. then why move mountains to conceal the record? and if it's all fine, why call the whistle-blower basically a spy and suggest they should be killed? yes, that's where we are. so let's talk to players on both sides about where we're going. congresswoman maxine waters, chair of the house finance committee. it's good to see you. >> good to be here. thank you. delighted to be with you this evening. >> very important moment. >> yes. >> after today -- >> yes. >> where were you left in terms of the strength of conviction you have about what you're dealing with? >> well, i have, for a long