the ukraine stuff. >> david, i guess the question i would have is is biden support -- is warren support at the expensive biden or it's coming from others? >> it's mostly coming from others. from bernie sanders and others but we should put a nitrend lin and she's been on a rise, this is a sequential process. what's encouraging for her and daunting for biden, elizabeth warren is showing strength in iowa and new hampshire. the first two contests. if nia is the guy who can take trump on and starts the race by losing the first two contests, perhaps the third in nevada, is he going to be viewed in those terms then? elizabeth warren steps on the