could be evidence that he was attempting to do that. just because he didn't ink these deals does presiden't mean ther legal problem. that's been his response today, to harp on the fact, hey, i never actually went through with this. >> matt, thanks so much for joining us. terrific reporting. have a happy thanksgiving. >> thanks, you, too, john. >> let's follow-up with legal analyst, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district which is investigating associates of rudy giuliani. senior political analyst and columnist kiersten powers is here and senior political commentator former republican senator rick santorum here as well. ellie, does this put rudy giuliani in any further or more legal jeopardy? what are the i am plmplications? >> parnas is indicted. rudy giuliani himself is being investigated by the southern district, which he used to lead. we know that that whopper subpoena got served the other day relating to rudy's business