of interest? a lack of it's so polarizing. it's not worth going into? >> it's like what's point of writing a book if you declare a bias early on that has the effect alien ating. 95% have no ideology cal orientation. i'm interested in having a dialogue and intel chul dialogue with people on where ever they are on the spectrum. i think it's pointless. there's a will the of -- by the way. >> i enjoy reading something that has nothing to do with politics. >> it's a deliberate choice. as a canadian, when you meet them go out of the way to emphasize the things they have