withdrawal, that drawdown, there will be another 3,500 soldiers in kuwait on standby in case there needed to be brought in for security as well as 1,000 soldiers and airmen in qatar to assist in the visa application process for those afghans who were trying to get out of the country. and the last point i'll make, anderson, the u.s. is using words like drawdown and withdrawal and reduction. the afghans see this as evacuation and abandonment, a severe blow to their morale and the morale of the afghan military that is quickly losing ground to the taliban. >> you can call it whatever you want. america's leaving. oren liebermann, appreciate it. perspective from william cohen, who served as defense secretary during the clinton administration. secretary chone, thank you for being with us. it is difficult obviously to watch regardless of what one thinks about whether or not the u.s. should be there. does it surprise you that cities around the country have fallen so quickly, and do you think kabul itself will fall? >> well, the rapidity at which