of those people you could not hate. and when you met him, you thought about him until, you know, one day, you're like why am i thinking about this person? he was just really one of those people that he could have the smallest interaction with and truly touch them. >> now, i understand that you went to -- you kind of went to rival high schools, didn't you? >> um, in -- in a way, yeah. it's gonna sound bad but -- um -- he went to gibbs which was like the local high school. and i went to -- i didn't want to go to gibbs. i wanted to go to the science technology, engineering, and mathematics downtown. and so, he always gave me so much, you know, flack for not going to the local one. he's like you just really thought you were above everyone. i was like no, i just wanted to break out, you know? >> uh-huh. but -- but you -- but you were high school sweethearts. how did you meet? >> um, we worked at a very small pizza shop in fountain city,