>> well, i -- i am, as a physician, a scientist, and a public-health individual, anderson, i am frustrated. and the reason is we do have the tools to end this. i mean, i have been in situations, in public-health situations, where you didn't have the tools to end something that was devastating people with regard to illness and death. that is very frustrating. it's frustrating in a different way when you have the tools and you have the wherewithal to get to the endgame of where you want to be, but you don't implement them. so yes, i am, i believe, equally frustrated. i don't want to see people get sick. i don't want to see them get hospitalized, and i certainly don't want to see them die. but that's what's happening when you don't vaccinate to the full extent possible. >> the -- the president outlined an aggressive new testing plan but just yesterday, your colleague, dr. frances collins, director of the nih, said there is still a problem distributing