so i've now kind of -- i mean, i'm freaked out by videos we've seen. i have interviewed pilots who have seen these things. i'm a believer. >> i'm freaked out, man. i am. >> do you believe there is some sort of other life form from some other galaxy or is this just like drones? >> you've asked a complex question. >> in a not very well phrased way, but yes, i appreciate that. >> i have seen because our knowledge comes secondhand except me seeing space, but i have been told by the guy who saw it that there are extreme files living in 600 degree fahrenheit water and sulfur 30 feet below the ocean, and in sulfur and they're alive, these worms and these clams. so are these ufos being piloted by worms and clams?