had you ever thought about actually being able to go up into space? >> no. i mean -- i -- i'm so sorry to -- to bring you down to earth, to use a phrase. it was all pretend. none -- none of that -- i was on a set in paramount studios. >> what do you mean, bill? what? >> i never -- you know, when -- when shooting "star trek," it was all a figment of our collective imagination. and -- and then, somebody said, oh, you go 1,800 miles an hour and you leave orbit and you go and you land on the moon. land on the moon? oh, my lord. space travel was being considered but -- and i used to -- i'd go down to the cape kennedy from time to time during the series i was shooting "star trek." and i met all the astronauts and the heroes and everything and i was very impressed. so when they went to the moon, i had reached -- they were at the apogee. i was divorced and the show