since 2017. could -- can it apply to someone like him? >> in my view, anderson, he has no credible basis to make this argument of executive privilege. he was not a government employee. he was not an adviser in the white house on january 6th. the committee's investigation is about the circumstances surrounding january 6th, 2021. steve bannon was not in the white house then. he was not in the government or a presidential adviser. um, and even if he was, it would be the current president -- president biden -- who is the one who actually has the authority to assert executive privilege. >> carl, is there a danger here? i mean, you know, for president biden not to have backed up his former -- the -- the former president in -- in the executive privilege argument? i mean, don't most presidents back up the former president normally? >> it has to do with whether this is a legitimate exercise of executive privilege, and this is