saw him on the news and figured out that he was a professional racist. so, yeah, a lot of these guys are out of the movement but the old money white nationalists behind the scenes who funded them and nur thured them, they weren't involved in this case and so they are sill out there. >> elle reeve as i said, you were there in 2017. you are there tonight. i imagine there will be more chapters in the future you will be covering as well. we appreciate the work you are doing on this. >> thank you. >> as we mentioned, one woman was killed during that 2017 rally. her name was heather heyer. a 32-year-old pay la legal. she was killed when one of the defendants drove his car into a crowd of counter-protestors. that man is now serving multiple life sentences. we are honored that heather's mother, susan, could join us tonight. susan, very nice to see you. we appreciate you being with us. when you heard what the jury decided today, what went through your mind? >> well, my first question was trying to understand why they were not convicted on -- on one and two and it took a while to