clown car on fire. so here's the deal. i was told by a source close to pence and his team they were very concerned about this scenario playing out. they knew there were a lot of shenanigans going on. so when you recall, mike pence released that statement before january 6th saying -- laying out the process and saying i can only accept certificates of lectors that were certified by the state, by a state authority. that was intentional. and that was intentional because they were worried about this exact scenario. they wanted to make sure they laid out their case that this is what we have to follow, this is what we have to do. >> yeah. and more details are going to come out about this. a lot of people were involved in this it sounds like. rooms were being booked, phony certificates were being sent out. >> lectors were bragging about it. >> what was the trump campaign's justification for this?