unwise thing. after working at gothic grill in manhattan, instead of staying where the money and arguably was, he returned to detroit. he's been working to get a brick and mortar establishment going by first doing regular pop ups here at guns and butter, tucked into the back room of an art gallery under an overpass in downtown detroit. >> you have like a really weird attitude towards food in general. >> yeah. >> what's that? >> you got liquor, got cigarettes, got coffee. >> all of that. we're going to eat well. >> charlie rudolph may have a pulitzer prize. but his appreciation of fine food and dining is, shall we say lacking. >> is that cheese? >> simply put, he's a philistine. warm egg yolk with a smeltering of egg on top? he does these like he's at ruby tuesdays.