around hillary not only e-mail server, overall numbers, honest, trust worthy, fav, unfav, declining for her. joe biden although we joke, he is the clown prince. all these other things. joe biden is affable, friendly, not a threatening, scary, democratic figure. you would probably have to reset a little on how you were calibrating against the democratic nominee if joe biden got in the race. and i think today, it is still speculative. the white house didn't do hillary clinton any favors today. they seem to be opening, some of the doors. >> there is no other thing the president could have done. and i have to answer, i don't know what numbers. >> the numbers where hillary clinton is right now. any presidential candidate would kill for the numbers that she has right now. and her formidable --