merely has to step into the stream when he hears you coming. - right. the spirit of it is-- it makes sense. - the spirit of it's thievery. - well-- - we own it, and they took it, and that's not stealing it, without compensation? - i think it's still here. - this is about being a good neighbor, right? - yeah. - i mean, so, if people ask nicely, more often than not, you're gonna say yes? - we do. it used to be, before stream access, we seldom required somebody to have permission if they just behaved themselves. after stream access is when the outfitters came into the world, not because we wanted to make money, but we wanted somebody there patrolling and policing it. the outfitters take care of it. - a small stream like this can only take so much pressure. - it really can. - and so we try to manage it, fish it responsibly. and if somebody wants to walk all the way from the smith five miles up to here, and do it legally, i say all the more power to them. - that's what i'm saying.