them. >> are there good guys out there? >> not a lot -- there's a lot of guys, yes. but they don't want to run. there's a lot of people -- >> why don't they want to run? >> because you've got to take the bad [ muted ] that come along with it. you got to take the garbage. >> why should a bright young guy fresh out of law school start thinking about running for anything in the city of detroit? >> sooner or later, it's gonna being all right. it's a tough time. >> is detroit going to turn things around? i could lie and tell you, yes. but you know what? this city is screwed. only place i've ever been that looks anything like detroit does now? chernobyl. i'm not being funny. that's the truth. >> abandoned, a mess. >> but you have to admire the bold, proud, ferociously enterprising survivors who decided to hang on, hang in, and figure out a way to not only