to get to the two-thirds threshold so they have to go back to the drawing board so to speak and look for someone else. if there was black smoke tonight, i think it would be reasonable to conclude that no one had overwhelming support that they were a slam dunk which means the stage may be set for a surprise at the end. >> the question becomes who fits the bill. you go to someone completely reintroduced or someone safe so that you don't extend the conclave too much? that's the balance you were talking about earlier. >> and about having a conclave go on too long, it does send a message of disunity which is the last thing a lot of these cardinals want. >> not only do they not want to send a message of disunity, but they don't want the new pope to appear compromised. they don't want him to look like a a pope of one faction, they want to look like a pope who has the entire support. there is tremendous pressure i think these cardinals feel. on the one hand they want to dpet this right and take as long as it takes to get it right and it's worth reminding people