i'll tell you how. >> 5 million people got cancellation notices. >> already, there have been children whose lives have been saved because they were able to get coverage for pre-existing conditions. so there's no question that the affordable care act has already saved lives. moving forward, it will continue to save lives because you are going to be able to have 40 million people get on to this exchange once it starts working and get health care coverage that they couldn't get before. and the republican alternative is to take all of that away. >> with all due respect, with all due respect, when you claim that he's already saved lives, do you not realize that this doesn't go into effect until next year? you can't claim it saved lives when it's not even in effect till january of 2014. >> no, ben. go back and look at your facts because preventive care, the pre-existing conditions went into effect this year, ben. go back and look it up.