like i say, i'm not in deposit. i document know how that works. but with the bae family, i feel for them. i feel for them deeply. if it was -- like i said -- let me tell you this. i would do anything, literally -- this is dennis rodman talking. if they said we'll take dennis rodman and let kenneth bae go, you know what? i'll do that. straight ahead, e'll do it. take me. that way -- >> now that offer is very generous. >> no, no, no. >> that offer should extend when i go with you to north korea. >> i should do that. >> when i go to north korea don't say take him and let kennett bea go. >> if they do that, i would do that. >> you would change places, 15 years of hard labor. >> like i said, i don't want to get in deft with that. that's for obama to address that to the people of the world. just to clear this up, you know, people think i hate obama. i think he's done a helluva job.