exactly how much money has been frozen. the estimates range from 30 billion up to 150 billion as donald trump says. the treasury department puts it in the middle, 125 billion, a lot of money, no question, but they also make the point that when those funds are unfrozen, iran still has a lot of commitments. they have creditors that they're already obligated to pay, and it's the administration's estimate that about half of that money, another 50 billion would be paid to the creditors leaving iran with about $50 billion of those frozen assets. keep in mind, kate, that's just the frozen assets. it doesn't quantify other financial gains that iran will get, for instance, its ability to sell more oil overseas. so the fact is, they will get billions of dollars. he's giving the high end of the range of just the frozen assets. >> and that does play into a lot of what the critics are saying. there is a lot of unknown in terms of what they're set to gain from if the sanctions are lifted. so the other part about this, is