are they going to listen to that message? >> no doubt about it. some might call that parsing of language clintonian. you are right, kate, he clearly -- whether or not he actually insulted the religion, he injected ben carson's religion deliberately on the campaign trail and into the campaign dialogue this weekend because he wants that as part of the conversation. he sees what we see in the polls, which is that evangelicals are contributing to this surge that carson bull pbe having in iowa, who is the undisputed front-runner in the kickoff state. donald trump knows he's there because of the support among evangelicals and wanted to throw this sort of into the conversation and see what happens with it. >> on the subject of things donald trump does, and probably does without any impunity, a little while ago we heard those comments in new hampshire where he says, i managed to overcome all these obstacles with nothing