flight and they were up at altitude, shouldn't have been in commercial jet altitude but in conflict people ignore the international laws, of course, then it could have been an air missile, heat seeking missile as well. it's difficult to tell. a lot depends -- people don't understand how very important it is to have those identifier codes identifying your aircraft as a civilian aircraft. it's very important. so there may be similarities between the disappearance in terms of identification of the plane, et cetera, but at 32,000 feet there's no reason to shoot down a civilian jetliner. >> 280 passengers we're told, 15 crew, reports that this boeing 777 malaysian airlines flight crashed somewhere in eastern ukraine near the russian border. we do not know why at this point. simply no information about why this plane went down, only the