many people identify with the protests in ferguson, the "hands up, don't shoot" gesture. how was that received in ferguson? >> there are a lot of people who thought it was perfectly appropriate or appreciated the gesture. this controversy is also interesting that it happens on a day when you have so mem m people talking about people bridging gaps. the mayor of ferguson is talking about bridging gaps between the police department and the african-american then you have this controversy where the st. louis police officers association criticizing in very strong language what these football players did on the field yesterday afternoon. so you know here you have on one side people talking about bringing people together to have these conversations and then you have these diametrically opposed situations that unfolded yesterday here so it's kind of a case in point of how both of