they're doing this thousanow. >> he was asked seven times. >> he's really at risk in his senate race and john hickenlooper will probably be his opponent and john doesn't stumble around like that. it's probably about survival. he doesn't want to make his base mad. >> is that really survival? >> he thinks so. if you don't have a good answer to that, what were you doing there? i would like to think republicans, democrats, independents, it doesn't matter. when you had your hands on the wheel and you were driving the car, did you drive it in the right direction? did you sell out your principles because you thought you were going to get somewhere? all of us are hypocrites at times. >> this really gets to one of the central themes of your book which, to me, this is like all of the conversations that you and i have camera and off. we end up here, which is all