he should jump in. this that is in addition to the moves that former new york city mayor michael bloomberg is weighing as he is thinking of the same. joining me now, breanne. it's great to see you again. >> thanks for having me. >> of course. how is this back and forth between biden and warren playing among democratic voters in iowa? what do you hear about this? >> well, there's a real tension among likely democratic caucus goers right now over healthcare and really the two visions of it that they're presenting, whether it's the all-in medicare for all that elizabeth warren and bernie sanders are envisioning or a more scaled back public option type medicare for all who wants it plan of joe biden and pete buttigieg. so there's attention policywise, but now we're getting into style and presentation and this back and forth as we've gotten closer to caucus day. we're seeing them take the gloves off a little bit and are more combative in the way they're presenting these