echelons, and also there was quite a bit of pushback and alarm inside his own administration about it, but in terms of the political dynamic, i think manu is right, it hasn't moved any votes that i can see. you've heard from republicans, even some questioning the president's conduct saying it might not have been appropriate, saying they still didn't think this was impeachable conduct. you see democrats even more aggressively heading that place. a vote seems inevitable, democrats are in control of the house, so there's very little doubt in my mind that it would pass, but i don't think republicans changing their minds based on what they heard. >> the divide is there and perhaps even growing in some ways. what we saw, what we heard, there's also who, i should say we didn't see, who we didn't