are on one side, others on the other. politics is reminding me more and more of that kind of a football game approach. i hate to say it and again, it makes you sad. >> i think there's a number of americans who would agree with you. i know you said earlier in the week there were moments for you that you saw that you thought could potentially as voters start to digest this it could perhaps shift the needle for them. was there anything you saw, specifically yesterday, because there's been so much made of what we heard from fiona hill, anything that you saw that you think could break through, could perhaps speak to someone who is watching this and saying, i don't think i can be moved? >> i think, erica, the national news has been carrying this story aggressively. i think people want to say the