thought, after boltating home o afternoon and seeing what he thought was a homeless encampment under the bridge, that this could be the guy. so he finished going home. he got his dad, who was a lifetime law enforcement officer and investigator, and they went over and they drove and they walked down under the bridge. and instantly, when travis did this, you saw evidence of his muscle memory. he talked about walking down, not holding a weapon out, not armed with a gun out, he had his gun with him just in case he needed it for protection, but he walked out to do what? use leaps -- to listen, to have a conversation. and as he walked down under the bridge, he saw a bunch of trash and a bunch of items and a machete and a man fishing. so he followed his training. he politely stepped in between the machete and the man, and he said, hey, bud, you living down