with his truck. he watches him, watching. so he pulls up next to him, and he stops again. he says hey, hey, hold on a second. just want to talk to you for a minute. something is going on back there. we want to know what's going on. he's not saying to the guy i don't know what's been going on in this neighborhood. to do that would do what, it would escalate the situation? so he just says we want to know what's going on back there. why is that guy pointing at you? why is he doing that? mr. arbery stops, he looks him dead in the eyes, doesn't say a word and travis just says we want you to stay right here we're calling the cops, calling the cops. . he called the cops. and mr. arbery bolts. now on the subject of police, travis told you. got in the car with my dad. i said, dad, are the cops coming? yeah, yeah, yeah. go this way. go this way. it's very clear. he said he asked his father about the cops being called. they call the cops all the time.