>> the fall is to assume all killer whales are like tilikum. you have to look at their learning history from birth. you have to understand why tilikum was a hazard to anybody in the water. and you have to understand none of the other killer whales at seaworld in that system are that way. >> what about the incident at loro parque? >> first of all, i can't speak with specificity about loro parque. i wasn't there. in fact, i know very little about it, probably about as much as the general public knows. ♪