raising taxes? >> these are people who are unemployed right now, the clock is ticking down to zero. >> yes. >> and if somebody says to you, we're not doing that, you have to focus on the art of the possible. >> i want to take this a slightly different direction. governor, there is a reason why there is an agreement on what the pay for is because some are using it for ideological and political purposes. particularly republicans in congress with their own party even have trust problems. a new poll out today, 51% of republicans disapprove of the republican congress. explain this to me. these are self-inflicted wounds. they can't even get the easy stuff done. tell me why their approval rating in their own party is so low. >> sure. there is a bit of -- not a civil war but at least a split in the republican party taking place. if you look at the congress you've got people further to the right saying they're not