until you found the connections. >> the president's own review panel that included republicans and democrats said that this collection, this vault checked has not helped us solve a single terrorism threat. so the question is it costs billions of dollars, it's not effective, so why are we doing it? and it offends our values. >> governor, do you want to respond to that? >> i think it's a very important discussion. i think the president today initiated the discussion that i think this country is going to have for evermore. we live in an age that will be called digital forevermore. and digital with the multiple threats against the united states puts a unique and complex pressure on this country in order to keep it safe. the question becomes, as i saw the president today, asking the congress to try to build a consensus route, perhaps a new regimen. every single day technology changes, every single day there's more and more communication.